I was honored to join Horace Dediu on his new interview podcast, High Density.

We spent a fair bit of time on Microsoft and Steve Ballmer, but also touched on Apple, functional versus divisional organizations, and more. I hope you enjoy it.

Some relevant links from Stratechery:

• Why Microsoft’s Reorganization Is a Bad Idea
• The Uncanny Valley of a Functional Organization
• Apple the Black Swan

The John Kay piece I reference is called Sometimes the best that a company can hope for is death. Really great.